Living Reconciled
Living Reconciled, hosted by Mission Mississippi, is a podcast dedicated to exploring reconciliation and the Gospel that enables us to live it out. Mission Mississippi has been leading the way in racial reconciliation in Mississippi for 31 years. Our model is to bring people together to build relationships across racial lines so they can work together to better their communities. Our mission is to encourage and demonstrate grace in the Body of Christ across racial lines so that communities throughout Mississippi can see practical evidence of the gospel message.
Living Reconciled
EP. 85: Ed Holliday's Story and Work at Mission Mississippi
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What happens when a scam steals more than money—it shakes your faith? In this powerful episode, Ed Holliday shares how one phone call cost him $200,000 in crypto and what it taught him about fear, forgiveness, and resilience.
Ed breaks down the anatomy of modern scams—how con artists build trust, weaponize urgency, and exploit human psychology—and offers practical steps to protect yourself and those you love. He also opens up about how faith, hymns, and community helped him heal and forgive the people who deceived him. This is more than a cautionary tale—it’s a story about grace under pressure and turning loss into purpose.
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This is Living Reconciled, a podcast dedicated to giving our communities practical evidence of the gospel message by helping Christians learn how to live in the reconciliation that Jesus has already secured for us by living with grace across racial lines. Hey, thanks so much for joining us on episode 85 of Living Reconciled. I'm your host, Brian Crawford. My good friends, Nettie Winters, Austin Hoyle couldn't join me today, but I got an even better friend with me, uh, Ed Holliday. Ed Holliday is a longtime uh chair of the Mission Mississippi Tupelo uh movement in Tupelo, Mississippi. Uh Ed is an incredible, incredible uh uh brother and friend. He is a world traveler. Uh missionary seen a lot of things in the mission field, but also uh when he's not traveling the world, he also serves as a local dentist where he has his own practice there uh in the Tupelo area. And so he's a man of many hats, uh, husband, father, uh faithful, loyal church member, and we are delighted. And Arthur, and author, we can't forget about that because there's gonna be a lot to a lot to say as it relates to the author work that Ed is uh involved in. And so we can't wait to talk a little bit about that with Ed. But Ed Holiday, brother, how are you doing today?
SPEAKER_01:Brian, I'm doing fantastic. Thank you for letting me come on your show. And uh, you know, my heart has been with Mission Mississippi many, many years now through uh Dolphus Weary, Nettie Winters, and and uh and I'm just so glad to see the enthusiasm that you bring to Mission Mississippi, Brian. And uh I'm looking forward to speaking to you on on the podcast today.
SPEAKER_00:Excellent, excellent. Before we dive too deeply, I want to do, I do want to give a quick shout out to our uh our sponsors and friends, folks like Nissan, St. Dominic's Hospital, Atmos Energy, Regis Foundation, Mississippi College, Anderson United Methodist Church, Grace Temple Church, Mississippi State, Real Christian Foundation, Brown Missionary Baptist, Christian Life Church, Ms. Doris Powell, Robert Ward, and Winners, Al Canada, so so many, uh, or Rick Canada, excuse me, so many incredible, incredible people who make this work possible. Um, and we just want to say thank you. Um it's because of you that we're able to do what we do. And today what we're doing is we're talking to Ed Holiday about his life, his story, his faith, uh, the work of reconciliation that he has embarked on for and been embarking on for years, but also his latest book, CryptoCon. And we will get to that uh very shortly. But Ed, if you don't mind, tell our listeners, man, how you came to faith in Jesus and and how did your faith lead you into this work of reconciliation?
SPEAKER_01:Um my faith in Jesus is uh I did grow up in a Christian home, had a wonderful mom and dad, and they both passed away now, but they brought us up in, I think, an incredible environment in Ripley, Mississippi, uh up in the north, a small town, and grew up so many people that uh were a part of my life through Sunday school classes. You know, I can remember even uh three years old, uh, you know, walking to church in a little town called Cleveland, Cleveland, which is way on up there, uh not far from Tennessee. My dad was principal there, and then in 1965, I was born in 1960. We moved to Ripley in 1964. My dad and mom are educators, and so uh we grew up in Ripley and and I had uh three brothers and a sister, five of us with my mom and dad, and and we we learned a lot through uh small town and having garden and uh uh worked worked in a forest of fields as far as uh uh I say fields, uh I guess forest, but uh cutting pump wood and firewood and all that kind of good stuff like that, and raising gardens, and picking cucumbers, and and uh going to school and playing sports and just you know growing up in a small town and and then uh but you asked me when uh I I was about seven years old and we had an evangelist come through and uh a lot of people may remember uh Angel Martini. Angel Martinez was his name from Oklahoma. Wow and uh Texas area, and he's really from Mexico, and uh so he he uh came up as a Mexican missionary and preaching in in the United States and yeah, and I uh gave my heart and life to Jesus at seven years old and and in uh church at First Baptist Church in Ripley, Mississippi. Wow. And from there I went through I know the children's programs and youth choir, youth choir trips, uh, and and those are things that when I met my wife, she was younger than me, but uh when we started dating, we realized even though we didn't know each other, just because of my background and going through the church and church programs and youth choir and trips and things, uh we had so much in common with that and loving the Lord. And and so that uh uh Leslie and I met and and got married in uh 1991 now. So uh and we've had four, have four wonderful children, they're all adult children now, and and in and out through the seasons and life, and um I I feel like you know God has really had his hand in and and there's times when he's had to really guide me, and and I've walked down trails that probably I shouldn't have walked down, but but God has always been faithful and and uh his word is true, and and and then that we're um of our children now and just trying to raise them in a way, and and I find myself, my wife and I have empty nesters now, everybody's out of the house. And so I have been able to put some things together, like said writing books. I've always wanted to write some, but I've been write I've always wanted to write novels. I started three years ago about writing some novels, and uh that they're at hatchybooks.com and named after the Hatchie River up and flows out of uh Tippa County, and and and I've the Tallahatchie starts also. So one flows north and one flows south. Now, how many books have you written that? Well, as far as novels, uh written three number four is going to publishers, a seven book series. Uh that's why it's called the Hatchie series, and it's uh uh uh inner you know interweaves. Uh what I like to do is what uh Chuck Colson said, we don't need more Christian writers, we need more writers who are Christians. And that's what I'm looking at. I'm not trying to write Christian literature, I want to write good literature that anybody can read, and interweave in my my uh faith story in different places gets weaved into the stories, but I want to be it's more action adventures what I write. So uh that and then uh and you mentioned uh I got a new book out called CryptoCond, and and that's a book I did not want to write. It's a book that uh yeah, we brought it up. Uh it's you know, the Lord if He was there with me all the time. But man, when you get scammed, I mean I got scammed bad, and and and the title of the book is CryptoCon, My 200k Nightmare. So I lost$200,000 in uh worth of cryptocurrencies, and they'd be a lot more than that now. That's just they've gone up since then. But you know, that's where I can't dwell on the past, and it really hurt because I spent years putting things together and learning about the different aspects of the different cryptocurrencies I had, and and and uh I will say you go back to the Bible, and my wife pointed, you know, in Proverbs that pride goeth before fall, and I knew I had some uh current uh current cryptocurrencies that moved up and uh I didn't want to sell them off and have to pay the government half of the money, so I just thought I'll sit on them, and then um and I I sat on them and and and somebody took them out from under me, and and there's no way to get it back for those who don't know about cryptocurrencies. They've got apps out there called uh like a tornado app where they split it up in a thousand different ways, so law enforcement cannot track it down. Um, you know, and it's uh I filed a report, police report from the local and Tupelo police, they were very good, uh filed FBI and others and hadn't heard a thing from them, but yeah, you know, I but I did everything I was supposed to, but it's devastating, and and that's what I'm why I wrote the book. Uh Brian, just to let you know, uh uh I had to get somebody in to clean up my computers, and you know, they just infiltrated all my computers, got everything, and and and but they said, Ed, I know you're a good writer, and you really ought to write a book about this, because he said, as a computer security expert, I see people getting scammed all the time. It's happening all over, and everybody's full of guilt and shame that uh they don't want anybody to know about it. And I feel that way too. I didn't want anybody and I thought, man, that's the last thing I'm gonna do is tell everybody I I got snookered for$200,000, but it happened. And I realize it's happened to a lot of other people in different ways, different amounts. And so I the book is really to go through the excruciating details. It's I don't like reliving it. I tell people it's sort of like when you drive by, you know, when you see a wreck and it looks bad, you know, you can't just you want to look and see what's going on, but you're so glad you're not in the wreck. Well, that's what my book is. You know, it's uh most people that you don't want it to happen to you, and uh you don't want it to happen to you, but I write out the story, how I got pulled into it. It doesn't matter if you know it's it could be cryptocurrency or your bank account or you know, any assets that you got, scammers are out there. Now I know um uh this is time of season uh we have Halloween coming up and everybody dressing up, and you know, the the worst monster out there is the real monster, and those are the scammers. Those are the scammers, they're the real monsters, they're not make-believe. And uh so in my book, uh I do uh talk about what happened, but I also give you 10 steps to safeguard your future, things you know anybody can do, start putting to work. And I also, you know, I'm a dentist also, and and I I work with uh, you know, patients that are nervous and things, and over the years, you you know, and epinephrine, when when you our natural body, the way God designed our body, we have a fight or flight mechanism. You have fear, it kicks in. Scammers use that, they put you in a state of fear because your brain reacts to that. And I write about that in a book and go over you know what happens in your brain uh and and why scammers succeed because they are social engineering you. They put fear in you, and then your brain uh shuts down with rational thinking, doesn't come shut completely down, but the rational part of your brain is sort of set to the side because the fight or flight, your brain's going, I gotta survive. And and they they manipulate that. They know how, they're skilled. And so uh anybody can fall for it at the right time, right place, and that's why my book's important. And uh I'm I hope it does help a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00:And uh there's very little doubt that it will. Um I I know, I know it will help a lot of people, and and and to your point, this is something that's happening increasingly um and alarmingly uh happening on a regular basis. It's uh it's it's so it's so regular. And I mentioned you and I was having a conversation before our pod, and you know, I was just saying that I I just after days of having you um online with us for our devotional uh prayer breakfast or host or leading our devotion for our prayer breakfast just a couple of weeks ago, um I got word about another um another dear friend who had experienced a similar um similar um scamming experience. For for those of for those of those of us that may be listening online that may be saying that can't happen to me, you know. Um what makes it so you mentioned you mentioned the the the fear element that that scan that scammers tap into. Um if you could could you just unpeel the unpeel the onion a little bit more and just talk about what makes it so easy to connect with us in ways that we don't suspect people will be connecting with us and to and to and to cause us to drop our guards in ways that we don't expect to drop our guards.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm glad you asked that, Brian. It's a very good question. Uh and I know a lot of people here go to church, Christians go, and and and they're the most vulnerable. And and that happens so many times if uh uh people know the scammers know that somebody we we want to think the best of people. We want to look for the best in them, and we are trusting, and churches are trusting, and there's you know, like you said, churches can be scammed and different parts uh are members, and and so you have to be aware. But the thing that um I you know I go in detail in the book what happened, but uh there's one cryptocurrency I had that was worth$38,000, and it was an investment I you know I'd and I've been doing this for a while since 2018. So, you know, I wasn't like a newbie, I should have known better in ways. But they uh they got into my mail account and they knew exactly what I had. You know, I didn't trust them. I mean I spent an hour saying, yeah, I don't believe you who you're saying y'all. And but they knew they knew what I had. I had 1,999 chain link tokens. That's the name of a crypto, and and um they knew exactly what I had to make me think they were you know uh part of the the team that was managing my account on Coinbase. And and I I know better, I knew all the scammers. I still, you know, sitting there saying I can't believe I fell for it. And yet it was um that's uh but their brain when when when they put fear in your mind, they said, and this is what they were saying, somebody from uh out of, you know, uh I forgot what they said, Frankfurt or somewhere out of the country said somebody's moving your chain link tokens. And if it's not you, we need to get yours, you know, we need to make sure you're safe and move those to a, you know, so we're not gonna move them out of Coinbase, we just want to move them from your Coinbase exchange account to the Coinbase wallet, just and they said, We're from Coinbase asset management, you know, our asset protection, you know, and and I knew Coinbase wasn't supposed to call you, but um but you know, it's just it just seemed so real. And when they said, you know, somebody's trying to get my$38,000, yeah. I knew what it's worth, and that I mean I go back and say probably go before a fall, I was so you know, worried about that$38,000 worth that I I I just thought it in my mind that's where your irrational thinking stops or is shut down because you're in a fear mode, and then it almost is like you are trusting them because they're telling you, you know, I'm not sure about all this, and but they're telling me what's going on. So I I trust, I put my trust in them because I fear the person who's trying to steal my money, and yet they're the one stealing it. But you somehow your brain and they know how to manipulate the brain. That's social engineering. And and so we've done a lot of you know studying on this, and that's why I wanted to put things in a book to get people to realize, you know, if somebody says you gotta do it now, it's urgent, they're putting fear in you, you know, those are all red flags. And if somebody right now, if somebody calls you on the phone, I don't care as a president of the United States, or you don't do anything on the phone anymore unless you initiate the call. I mean, that's the it's a shame that you know anybody in the world on so many of these, it's harder to catch a lot of them because they're outside the country. You know, even if the FBI caught them, they can't do anything with them. So um uh that and you know, though those are the reasons scammers aren't they're not having to pay a price. They're getting by with it. They are just you know laughing all the way to the bank. And I don't know what can be done on that, but it's the the best thing right now is protection, you know, protecting yourself.
SPEAKER_00:Um, I mean, you you mentioned a couple of things that are super important and for and for me, this is you know, this is such a a weighty issue, and this is an issue that the church has to lean into. Like you said, a lot, a lot of times, you know, there are a lot of people that are suffering silently because they've been scammed, but then the shame overrides um their um their need to maybe come forward so that they can get the help that they need. Um so I'm glad we're having this conversation because so much, so many people are sitting sitting in silence because shame has uh has has kept them from getting the help that they need.
SPEAKER_01:And that's I mean, there's a lot of shame, a lot of guilt. Me just talking to you. It's taken a while. You know, that happened on Valentine's Day of this year, 2025. Yeah. Uh and it's but it, you know, I got the book out so that I I could explain it. And uh I try not to be emotional, but you can tell my voice, I'm still a little emotional. But I put I have to put it at the feet of Jesus. Amen. I will say that right after I got scammed. And one thing that I mean, my whole body was shaking. I had never experienced anything like this before. I mean, I went down a dark valley and I had to realize, you know, I'm not in the hospital, I don't have broken bones, children are okay, you know, and I had to put that into perspective. I hate what happened to me, yeah, but I had to hang on to God. And and one of the things that calmed me down at night, I I just hummed hymns, old hymns that I just some of them I hadn't heard about, uh, you know, I hadn't thought about in years, but just came back to me. Talking about, you know, as a young child being in church and singing some of those old hymns. And and that's one of the things that calmed me down. I knew I needed to lay it at the feet of Jesus, but man, that is hard to do. And to pray for, I did pray for this team and this cavement.
SPEAKER_00:Pray for your enemies. Bless those that curse you. Bless those that curse you.
SPEAKER_01:That I've worked for years and put together. But but I did, and God is, you know, I I I has put that behind me. Like some people said, Ed, you're healthy, you're, you know, you can go back out and you can work hard and get get it back together. And, you know, there's um uh and I put a story in there, there's somebody that, you know, his friend is not healthy, and then cancer, late-stage cancer. You know, and she, you know, basically I tell the story about that. She had a big check, and it didn't mean a thing to her because she has no health. And, you know, and um, so that you know, those are things we have to see how God works on us in life, and uh, and I I love the fact that a lot of it, you know, uh uh comes from, you know, Mission, Mississippi and the friends I've made in Mission, Mississippi. I was able to share with what happened because I had a heart, I'd prayed with them, and I needed some help and prayer and just the walk somebody to hear my story, and and I'm so glad of people in Mission Mississippi were there for me.
SPEAKER_00:And uh and you know, Mission Mississippi is in many ways like it's like seeds being sown over time that that that you know you don't you don't know how they're gonna sprout forward and you're not you don't know when you're gonna need them. But you've been sowing seeds over time, and then this moment happens, this crisis comes, and all of a sudden all those seeds you've sown, they come to fruition in this moment to to wrap their arms around you, so to speak.
SPEAKER_01:Really, really have. I will tell you, if it's all right, Brian, I'll tell you if anybody wants to find out more about my book, it's just cryptocondbook.com.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Cryptocondbook.com or uh my Hatchie Book's got a link to it.
SPEAKER_00:And we'll be sure, we'll be sure to put those, uh put that in the show notes as well. And Crypto Crypto, CryptoCond.com. Well, CryptoCond Book.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Cryptocondbook.com. Yeah, we'll be sure to put those in the uh put those details in the show notes for sure, Ed. Here's another thing that that really stood out to me, man. Um, and you you know my past background, and I was um I spent you know 20 plus years with the Corps of Engineers and and IT uh service and IT management and and eventually uh eventually made my way into cyber, cybersecurity management. And and one of the one of the things that you mentioned that I think is an important piece is that a lot of times the work, the the work that culminates in in the con, the final con, that work starts earlier than you expect. And so, and so you know, you mentioned this idea of man, okay, they know all these things about what's going on, you know, with how many how many coins I got in this place and that place, and man, that's interesting. So they they're they they're establishing credibility, right, by saying, hey, you got X amount of coins in this box and that box. But the reality is that the the exploit started before the phone call. You know, the exploit started in the phishing of the emails to get that information. And there are there are times in which we'll click a link that we're not familiar with, and that link will take take us down a road that maybe we don't know we're going down, and so we'll end up exposing our email accounts or someone will have access because of weak passwords to our email accounts, and they'll get the phishing around. Now they they might not make the they might not announce themselves. They might just fish around so they they can try to get some details, and then once they get the details they feel like they need, then comes the phone call with the with all of the information that sounds credible and sounds like, man, who else would know this and how would they know this, you know. So to your earlier point, you know, the the the biggest step that we can take in any of this is the reality that we can no longer uh take a phone call as a credible, credible transaction. You know, and like you said, unless you are unless you have dialed that number and verified the number that you dialed, there there is no uh there is no trusting of a phone call with anyone who is trying to attempt some transaction with you online.
SPEAKER_01:And Brian, the same thing, you know, you uh the emails are the worst things because they they'll have an email from your bank or whatever, and you can't not trust those hyperlinks because they'll look exactly like what's real. You better go to the website and call the bank yourself on your number. Don't trust anything that you get but from an email.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:They they move, they make them look exactly like uh, you know, Amazon Prime or Disney or Google or anything you got an account with, they'll make it look just like it.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely, absolutely. Man, Ed, thank you for sharing your story and and thank you, thank you for writing, writing about this. And so if you if you if you want to hear more about this particular book um and and the many and the many others that Ed has written, I I would encourage you to go out to Hatchie Books, um, but also cryptoconbook um.com and and get you a copy of this book. I think I think it'll be an incredible tool, not just for you, but I think it'll be an incredible tool for the people in your life. Um there are so many people that that are building building inheritances to pass down to their children. And um and I think Ed's story is a is an opportunity um for for for us to be vigilant and trying to protect and protect those inheritances.
SPEAKER_01:I'll say this when I put it in the book. I think if if I'd spent a if I'd paid$100,000 for that book, I'd still be$100,000 richer than I am. Yeah, it's very valuable information.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my goodness, man. Oh my goodness, yes.
SPEAKER_01:So I'll end with that. Thank you, Brian, for letting me come on.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely, man. Let me before before we turn you loose, man, you are an incredible, incredible, incredible uh leader in the movement of Mission Mississippi across the state. Um we mentioned that you are the co-chair uh along along with uh with a good friend uh there in Tillman, Tillman up there in Tupelo. Yeah, Tillman Calvert up there in Tupelo. And so um, so we're great, we're grateful for the work you guys are doing. Talk to us a little bit, man, before we turn you loose, about the lessons that you have learned and the joys that you have experienced from this role of leading out in the Mission Mississippi Tupelo movement.
SPEAKER_01:Well, number one, Brian, is it gives me access, you know, to pray with people, you know, I I go to church and and and I love the people I go to church with and grew up and grown up in churches, but being able to mission Mississippi it's exposed me to other churches where we meet for prayer breakfast at different local churches and over the years and meeting many of the pastors, praying with the pastors, building a relationship with uh members of the other church that uh, you know, may not look like me. And especially in uh, you know, my black friends now that uh I have because of Mission Mississippi. And you know, we're not supposed to agree on everything, but we can come to the cross and lay everything down and we can love each other and know our hearts that we want what's best for everybody in Mississippi. Everybody, no matter what color you are, and trying to find those ways. God makes us all different with different brains, different ideas, different minds, different seasons, different families, so that we can enrich the body of Christ and we can be a blessing to the world. And so that's where Mission Mississippi and I see uh my role is just you know really helping to keep the it going because it's a part of the body of Christ, and that's important. It's important for every Christian to know. If you're a believer, you need to be plugged in, and it's good everybody needs a local church, but you need to plug into more than that because that's what heaven's gonna be like. You know, we're not gonna be going to one little church down on the corner. So uh yes, yes, we need to love each other more, and that's what Mission Mississippi has taught me. Love people more, and uh, we don't know when our last day on earth is gonna be. So love beat people every day.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, amen, amen. You know, and I um you know I'm always reminded of Jesus in the in the Sermon on the Mount and his command to us to love our enemies, and he says, He says, What credit do you have to love those that love, love those who love you? And and that always prompts me to think about the the what Christian love looks like. And what I like to tell people is that Christian love, you know, really doesn't take shape until you find yourself having to love past tension. Um, but so much of the way we're conditioned in society, we're conditioned only to love up to tension. And even Christians adopt that posture where it's like we love up to agreement.
SPEAKER_01:That's human nature. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. In our weakness, Jesus makes us strong.
SPEAKER_00:And that's why absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:And that's why I can say, Father, I forgive the scammer. I don't know who he is, but I forgive him. My goodness. And and let him hope I pray for his salvation. And uh and it's probably a whole team. I don't think it's one person, it's more than one person.
SPEAKER_00:But uh But you hit the you hit the nail on the head, and it's it's the power that God gives us. That's so when Jesus calls us to something higher, he doesn't call us to something higher without equipping us with the with the with the gift to to to pursue it. And and that's and so Jesus is by his spirit saying, No, you have something in you that's greater than just simply loving up to the point of tension or loving up to the point of disagreement, or even in your case, my goodness, loving up to the point of grave offense. You know, there's something in you that has been placed in you by by God, the very spirit of God, that allows us to love even beyond that. And so I and so I'm appreciative of you sharing your story, not just because of your experiences with uh Mission Mississippi that has taught you that, but also just at a at a very, very, very deep and personal um and grievous, grievous level, you've you've had you've learned how to love through tension. And so, man, I'm I'm grateful, man. I'm grateful for your example to us. I'm grateful for the fact that you um that instead of just kind of keeping us. Story to yourself, you brought that story uh to the light because I think, I think even in the midst of the dark moments, um it's gonna it's gonna shine a lot of light in a lot of homes and a lot of families, and I'm grateful that you've allowed allowed the Lord to use you in this way, brother.
SPEAKER_01:Well, thank you for the opportunity, Brian. Thank you for letting me come on your show.
SPEAKER_00:Amen. Amen. For those of you all who are listening, uh please feel free to reach out, go reach out um to or or visit rather hatchybooks.com, hatchybooks.com. Also, the latest book, CryptoCond. You can go to CryptoCond book, cryptocondbook.com and get this book, get a copy of this book, get multiple copies of this book, share with your friends and family. Um this is this is this is a story that needs to be to be uh told and it needs to be told multiple times in multiple ways. And so please uh keep your family abreast of the dangers that that that are out there, some seen, but a lot of them unseen and unknown. Uh so please keep your family abreast to that. Um Ed, also, do you have any socials, social media, anything, any way people can keep up with you online?
SPEAKER_01:Well, of course, I I have a just Ed Holiday Facebook, but uh Hatchie Books has a Facebook page here. Perfect. Hatchy spelled H-A-T-C-H-I-E. For those who are everybody always asked me how do you spell that? But HatchyBooks.com and then Hatchy uh books uh Hatchy um books on uh on uh Facebook and Instagram.
SPEAKER_00:Perfect, perfect, excellent, excellent. Thank you so much, Ed, for joining us. We are grateful for you, brother. Uh, for those of y'all who are um who are listening to this, you can feel free to subscribe, go to Living Reconciled um or any podcast app, click the subscribe button. Also, feel free to share uh this podcast, maybe this episode, but not just this episode, but this podcast in general. Feel free to share with friends and family alike. We would love your feedback. So feel free to reach out to us at missionmississippi.org if you got any feedback for us as to how we can serve the state of Mississippi and beyond better uh in the work of in the work of reconciliation and in the work of this podcast. We would love to hear from you. And again, it's been great to have you, brother. Thank you for being a good friend. Thank you for being a valuable asset to the work of reconciliation in our state. And to those that are listening, we're signing off saying, God bless. God bless you. Thanks for joining Living Reconciled. If you would like more information on how you can be a part of the ongoing work of helping Christians learn how to live in the reconciliation that Jesus has already secured, please visit us online at missionmississippi.org or call us at six oh one three five three six four seven seven. Thanks again for listening.
