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On our show today, Brian, Austin, and Neddie speak with Dr. Chad Hunsberger, who shares his incredible journey from growing up in a ministry-focused household to becoming the founder of the Timothy Project and the lead pastor at Colonial Heights Baptist Church. We discuss the origin story of the Timothy Project, its value to leaders across the south, and how the vision of nurturing effective ministry leaders has blossomed into a movement that's revitalizing communities and fostering essential pastoral relationships. We also delve into the importance of reconciliation and explore how the Timothy Project has become a catalyst for conversations around racial reconciliation and the spread of the gospel to unreached groups.
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On our show today, Brian, Austin, and Neddie speak with Dr. Chad Hunsberger, who shares his incredible journey from growing up in a ministry-focused household to becoming the founder of the Timothy Project and the lead pastor at Colonial Heights Baptist Church. We discuss the origin story of the Timothy Project, its value to leaders across the south, and how the vision of nurturing effective ministry leaders has blossomed into a movement that's revitalizing communities and fostering essential pastoral relationships. We also delve into the importance of reconciliation and explore how the Timothy Project has become a catalyst for conversations around racial reconciliation and the spread of the gospel to unreached groups.
Special thanks to our sponsors:
Nissan, St. Dominic's Hospital, Atmos Energy, Regions Foundation, Brown Missionary Baptist Church, Christian Life Church, Ms. Doris Powell, Mr. Robert Ward, and Ms. Ann Winters
This is Living Reconciled, a podcast dedicated to giving our communities practical evidence of the gospel message by helping Christians learn how to live in the reconciliation that Jesus has already secured for us by living with grace across racial lines.
Speaker 2:Hey, thanks a lot for joining us on episode 50 of Living Reconciled. I am your host, brian Crawford, hanging out with incredible friends Dr Austin Loyal, hey, reverend Dr Nettie Winters, hello, and we have a special guest with us the good doctor Chad.
Speaker 3:Hansberger Wow, the good doctor. I mean, what a nice way to say that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and we have Reverend Brian Crawford Exactly.
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Speaker 2:Dr Chad Husberger is the president, or should I say founder, of the Timothy Project and he is also a pastor lead pastor at Colonial Heights Baptist Church in Ridgeland, mississippi, which I'm sure we will hear an incredible amount about here in this podcast episode. But Chad is a dear friend of mine, who I love dearly, and he is in Baha'u'llah or leading the charge with a group of loving Jesus followers and in planting not planting, but in creating an incredible bit that just concluded going yesterday. It is the Timothy Project Conference. It used to be the Timothy Project Pastors Conference, now I think it is the Timothy Project Conference. It used to be the Timothy Project Pastors Conference, now I think it's the Timothy Project Leaders Conference at this point, because leaders from all areas of the church are now included and invited, and we wanted to invite Chad Owens to talk a little bit about that incredible event. But, chad, if you don't mind, why don't you just start? Tell us a little bit about you man. Tell us a little bit about your story, about the family, about your church.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thanks so much. I grew up in a preacher's home. It's kind of like that's a huge gift for me which plays into some of my story, even with Timothy Project. But my brother's in the ministry, I'm in the ministry my dad, my father-in-law, my brother-in-law it's like the family business, and so in that sense, it's just been a huge blessing for me. So I grew up in this home.
Speaker 3:I went to Samford University in Birmingham for my undergrad and then I met in Birmingham, met my now wife the last 20 years, gloria. We have four children Abigail and Luke. They're 15 and 13. Then I have another 13-year-old named Lottie and a 7-year-old named Zeke, and so, by God's grace again part of my story two of those children are biological children and two of those are adopted, and so Lottie is from China and Zeke is from India, and so we consider that just a unique gift for us as a family and so, yeah, so then came to Mississippi back in 2000 into 2009, and served at a church in Pearl, and then, about six years ago, I started serving here at Colonial Heights and God has just been uniquely blessing, yeah, in a variety of ways. So, so thankful for that.
Speaker 2:It's just a minute. I realize how to get to God's country.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right, I didn't come right here. You know, I've lived in six southern states and now I feel like everybody else in Mississippi Once you're here, you ain't leaving.
Speaker 2:And you've been there six years at Colonial Heights, coming up July. Time is flying. I didn't realize I was in that early in your Colonial Heights tenure. Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't realize that. That's amazing. So tell us a little bit about your burden for pastors and leaders that would drive you guys four years ago to start the Timothy Project. And as you began to talk a little bit about that, why don't you also tell us a little bit about the Timothy Project itself?
Speaker 3:Yeah, sure, well, honestly, right, when I got to Colonial Heights, by God's grace, there were several in the church, church members, who were sensing something. They didn't know if that was a call to ministry, if that was a call to the mission field, but just knew that God was doing something in them. So we wanted to develop kind of a next step, a next level for people to really dive into. How do we do as Timothy, as Paul tells Timothy, right, entrust to faithful men who will teach others also right. So we wanted to begin developing that. And so the Timothy Project kind of began as just the people in Colonial Heights. And one day I was sitting down with some of our staff and just kind of dreaming out what all that might include one day. And I said, you know, one day maybe we'll be in a position that I don't know. Six, seven, eight years from now, we'll gather a group of people together and talk about all the things we've been learning, maybe we have a conference, whatever. And months later I was at a meeting with several pastors, maybe close to a hundred pastors, and it was right after COVID had come, and so just a lot of heartache and hardship. In fact, one pastor, he shared a prayer request. He said I have 45 church members and 15 of them are in the hospital right now and just seeing and hearing a different level of burden, I came back to the church office and I said, hey guys, I think that distant idea needs to speed up and we need to offer something that we can just be an encouragement and try to equip pastors. And as that began to happen, god began to do some things within both Colonial Heights and in the Timothy Project. So the Timothy Project now it exists to equip and encourage pastors, missionaries and ministry leaders of any kind for the glory of God. And so the conference is like our biggest event, but that includes we do a cohort that meets once a month, some young guys who are moving toward pastoral ministry. We do roundtables of lead pastors that just might gather together to be encouraged, talk about some specific pastoral issues. We write articles. We have a podcast ourselves that comes out a couple times a month.
Speaker 3:We do some international work where I go and train pastors in other countries. We do some international work where I go and train pastors in other countries. So all of these things kind of are our desire to equip and encourage and I think, kind of the. The reason for that is twofold. One, the Bible tells us to right, so 2 Timothy 2.2 is where that comes from.
Speaker 3:And secondly, I think about my own experience. I told you guys it's like the family business. So I'm a phone call away from people all the time that can answer questions that I could go to and say, hey, when I was 23 and writing my very first funeral sermon, I could call my dad and say, dad, what did you say in your funeral? I can call my father-in-law and say, hey, can you send me a wedding? What did that look like? I can call my brother and say, how does the church budget work and all of those things? Yeah, you get some of that in seminary, but some of those things you just need a brother, a father in the faith that'll walk alongside you and say, hey, man, yeah, if this will help you at all, take my sermon, take my this funeral, this wedding, this budget, this, whatever. And so that's really the design of the Timothy Project is come alongside other brothers, and so that's really the design of the Timothy Project is come alongside other brothers, and so that's been a huge blessing. Talk to me.
Speaker 2:Chan, about, I guess, taking the thread that you started when you mentioned going back to the church and saying, hey, we need to accelerate, because there are some pastors out here that are tired, that are deep in the trenches and it's taking a toll. Is that something that you see just regularly? Was COVID just a kind of fly-by-night moment where you saw that kind of fatigue and that kind of exhaustion? Or is that something that you see in pastors that's kind of prompting you to say, hey, we got to keep this on going, we got to keep this flood of support and encouragement going.
Speaker 3:I wish that COVID was just. It just was a blip like it, just you know, oh, that happened. Those pastors are just weary in that moment, and what I really think is it shined a spotlight on it in a way that was different. Right Like everybody was trying to figure out COVID together, so everybody was on the phone asking the other pastors what did you do? How does this work? What are you doing at your place? And so there was more open dialogue about some of that that I don't think would have been there had COVID not happened. But now I think it just shined a light on the fact that there's hurting and heartache and hardship.
Speaker 3:Just yesterday at the conference, there was a roundtable kind of event with just lead pastors and when they were just sharing left and right this is what's hard. At my place, one pastor shared with me just a month ago their church split in half. One day, 150 people, the next Sunday 70. So those are. The pastor feels that right, they're going to talk about broken marriages, talk about relationships in the community, trying to do all of those things, and so I think, yeah, sadly, I think it's a common thing. For any believer that cares about other people, it's going to be common. I don't want it to elevate us as pastors to think that, oh, we're the only ones that feel heartache or hardship. No, this is like. The mark of a Christian is that you are burdened with your brothers and sisters, and so it's heavy. The difference, maybe by a lead pastor, is you're more aware of those scenarios. It's not because you care more, it's because you know more. You've been brought into the conversation.
Speaker 2:Right, right, nitty. You've been a pastor for a long time. You've seen ministry in all of its highs and its lows. Dr Robert Smith, who preached a phenomenal word on the Timothy Project, talked about the old ABC-wide world of sports the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat. That's all that. It can lead the journey of the Christian journey as well as the journey of the past. It can take you both sides of that spectrum. Talk to us a little bit about just how.
Speaker 2:When you hear a conference or a group, an initiative like the Timothy Project, seeking to encourage pastors, what does that mean to you? It's very encouraging for me to hear that, because so often Timothy don't have a Paul and every Timothy needs a Paul, needs to follow and so need to bottom us, need others around him or her to encourage them as leaders, pastors, whatever. You know you need someone around you that can talk your language. You know we used to have at the early beginning of the Mississippi we used to have pastors who were meeting, because we still have them meeting today just for that very reason, because they didn't have a platform or a format or a forum where they could just be pastors. You know they had to be guarded in most other situations. In fact, I remember having one in Vicksburg. Brian and one of the lay people showed up and the room got quiet and it stayed quiet the whole time. I had the duty of explaining to this layperson this was not the forum for him to come to. I'm coming to support my pastor. I said the best thing to do to support your pastor is not come right. It sounds like crazy but they were able to. They wanted a place where they could be free to share concerns and issues and things that they face as pastors. And too often our ministerial lives and other things turns into everything but that. It becomes even more stressful because you become competitive or comparisons or you don't really want to let people know where you're weak at and all of those things it can be used against you. So the want to let people know where you're weak at and all of those things it can be used against you. So the how to Timid the Project and what Chad and the group is doing is music to my ears and should be for most pastors out there. That's having to have a place like that that they can be a part of, not only just as a conference but, if I understand correctly, this is an ongoing process of building relationships and trustworthiness and authenticity and intimacy, as we ought to have as disciples and followers of Jesus Christ. So that excites me.
Speaker 2:You know, I participated in a when I was past. We had what we call a past development ministry. It was funded through Middleton Hall Management with Douglas Weary and Roy Blute. In fact I'm still connected, even though the management ran a course. I'm still connected to a lot of those pastors that was in that group and I spent each Monday night still with Dr Blue, which was the leader. He lives in Dallas, texas now. So I spend time on Zoom still making those connections, still have a place that I can talk to my mentor, my pastor, and be me without having to expose myself to places that I probably shouldn't be exposed to, and so that's just news to my ear and I would encourage those pastors that have an opportunity to be a part of that that by all means jump in there.
Speaker 2:Man, that's that you don't know, I guess as a pastor, sometimes when I was pastoring, I didn't know what I was missing until I found out what I was missing. You don't know what you don't know. You know. You know the exposure, the camaraderie, the fellowship, the connectedness. You don't know that you're lonesome until you figure out, you show up and these people is like man.
Speaker 2:I'm not in this alone, I'm not a lone ranger. You know, other people are facing the same issues, concerns like Chad alluded to, to his father, grandfather and so forth. There are many passes by that they don't have that opportunity to lean back on a brother or uncle or some close relative or friend that way. And then, if my memory is certainly correct, when I was passing, a lot of my friends that I did know were like guarding. They were guarding themselves and guarding the information.
Speaker 2:And I was not a church person in a sense. When I started in the ministry I was not accustomed to knowing the details of the Baptist doctrine, even though they're a Baptist church, and so I had to kind of disciple myself and beg with other pastors and learn from them and connect with them, because what they would do, they would meet with me a couple times and then after that you're on your own kind of like. You know, to have a continual connection is great. I know that's probably a long answer to you all, but you know, nettie, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Matter of fact, I want to tease out what you just said and ask Chad Chad, have you seen, like those terms? Stories where brothers come in and they say, man, I was incredibly lonely before this, but now I've been able to make some connections that may end up enduring for the long haul. That's going to enrich my ministry and even extend my ministry as a result of that.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. We've seen that in almost every area, whether it's the cohort or the roundtable or the conference, there have been meetings or relationships. I mean even in some ways yours and mine, right Like our relationship is drastically increased through connecting in conversation with that. But I would say, like I just just this last week I had a story. One brother came to.
Speaker 3:He drove from Indianola, so he came about an hour and a half right, I guess, to to one of the roundtable days and on his car ride home this was this was a couple of months ago and on his car ride home he picked up the phone and called another local pastor with him in the Delta and said look man, I just had this lunch with about 10 brothers, but why can't I have a lunch like that in my town? So last week they had their first group of guys 12 guys got together, had lunch together and just they each had to share one win and they each had to share a win in somebody else's ministry, and so it was just like celebrate, celebrate something God's doing in me and I want to celebrate something God's doing in you. So I'm thrilled with that. I'm not like, oh no, bring them all here. No, no Right Like praise God that that relationship is happening in in that way. Uh, so super thankful for that thank you, man.
Speaker 2:Thank you austin. You were a part of the timothy project, kind of had a had a glimpse of just the conference itself. Thoughts, just a little bit about what encouraged you the most when you, when you were there thank.
Speaker 4:I loved the conference. I just had the pleasure and the opportunity to be a part of a lot of training grounds, including seminaries, different conferences, speaking at different events, and I would say what really sets the Timothy project apart for me is the piece that y'all are focusing on. Is that mentorship? Because you know, with somebody, I've developed a sensitivity to certain trainings. When I walk into them I can tell this was far more than just a training. This was just a group of men and women because it was for all leaders, it wasn't just for pastors. So it was a group of men and women because it was for all leaders, it wasn't just for pastors, so it was a group of men and women to be able to come together and just share burdens. And I saw a lot of people who I could tell they were struggling with stuff and the questions when they were in breakout and they were really wrestling with it. They had people that were not just able but were also willing to kind of come along their side and and and talk with them. You know, just kind of sitting back and looking from the outside and that's that's a lot of the uh, the spirit that I got. So I was.
Speaker 4:I was really uh, I was really excited to see that, and not not only uh, that I see that, that that strong mentorship aspect of the Timothy project, but also it's coming from a reliably what I would call in the Methodist world what's it called Orthodox perspective, reliably theologically Orthodox perspective, approaching the Bible in a manner in which is appropriate, and I saw that as the basis of the relationships of the people. It was something that I saw both from the leadership from up front as well as from the brothers and sisters who were supporting each other in the conference itself. So it was, you know, it's any, any time we're able to create that type of uh, of ongoing community and have it go for one year, two years, three years, having simple, regular happening. It's just that's, that's. That's so good, because people at all stages, um, they're and this this is true for everybody, even even Chad, for those of us who have a strong ministry background, even since we were children, we can sometimes forget what it's like to feel and know and experience God's love in our lives.
Speaker 4:And from the outside, looking in, the Timothy Project appears to be an intentional program where people, where pastors from all walks of life I know y'all focus kind of on the beginning, but you also are having an intentional focus for people who are kind of mid career, um, you know, and and even even late career as well. So a lot of not just saw a lot of late careers, but I saw them really gathering something intentional from it, but also seeing them being able to uh slide into their mentorship roles as well, to be able to offer their lifetime of experience in ministry to some of the younger people. And honestly, I have not seen a conference done that effectively on kind of all the cylinders that I named, probably since before COVID. So it was definitely a and that might just be because I hadn't gone out to try to find them, but that was just something that it warmed my heart. You strangely warmed this Methodist heart.
Speaker 3:No man close God, that's so good.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, man Chad, you guys have a heavy emphasis on prayer during that power fitness. You know, there were moments where we noticed were moments she took time out to say, hey, if you're astray, you just you know, you got some challenges right now, you got some struggles right now. You just need some people to come outside and pray for you. Then, hey, stand up, make yourself known and brothers and sisters who are around you, I gotta come and I gotta pray for you.
Speaker 2:And then there were moments where you guys constantly hammered this point hall where you said, hey, there's a group of people that are waiting for you to pray for you. If you need a space to just go and confide with someone about what you're struggling with, then feel free to go to that space, because they're waiting for you, they're praying for you. When I came to the conference as a keynote which I'm greatly privileged to have spoken at the conference for the last couple of years but every time I've come, there's been a card that you guys have welcomed me with in my bag that says, hey, this is the prayer group. And we would like to say we've been praying for you and praying that the Lord has been with you and will enrich you. Why have you guys and how have y'all made prayer such a cornerstone in the Timothy Project offices?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because we're not any good without him, and so why not ask for the only one that can help us? So, in my understanding of how the prayer works just coming before God and asking him for help, and I need a lot of it, and all of us do Right, lot of it. And, uh, all of us do right. And so there's something about the way god has orchestrated in his plan to to have us call out to his name and call out our needs to him. Uh, right, cast all our cares upon him because he cares for us. Uh, I believe that the james five, the prayer of a righteous man, is powerful and effective. So, or, king James, right Availeth much. I believe that, that truth. So it's like, let's do that, let's say so because of that, let's lean in to our need for him, we get it. Also, I think this I know this is a thing that I'm so thankful Mission Mississippi does but there's something uniting about prayer that practically works out right, like we've been joking about Baptist Methodist, but it's like but at the end of the day, if we're talking to the one true God, then we can.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of things that we can disagree about. We can disagree about politics. We can disagree about whether a woman should be in the pulpit. We can disagree about whether you should get baptized by being dunked or get sprinkled. There's a variety of things. You know. We all need God. We can, we can circle together, we can link arms and we can say you need god and I need god, and and bring bring some clarity to, or even unity in our desperation that I think only the, the work of prayer and the work of the lord can do the they will.
Speaker 2:hey, speaking about unity, you know we're like we're all about reconciliation here Podcast called Living Reconciled Michigan, mississippi, and so of course we always find a way to get to that. That heart of ours. And the Timothy Project Conference, very much and very intentionally every single year that I've been a part of, and I've been a part of it since its inception has tried to weave in conversations, dog-eathing sermons around race, racial reconciliation, unity in the body of Christ, chad. Why has that been such an instrumental part of what the Timothy Project is trying to accomplish with church leaders across the state and beyond?
Speaker 3:Yeah, when we began, just being honest, there was a couple of things in particular maybe three or four, that we felt like really needed to do to have an added voice. We are thankful that people would trust us to be there, that we're going to be ones that look to the word Austin. You mentioned that. That's central for us. We're going to use the word over and over and over. But, using the word, there was going to be a couple things that we're going to talk about pretty much every time, because it's not always highlighted everywhere else, and so we felt like there's a void of conversation about racial reconciliation. There's a void about some of the talk about the need to get the gospel to those who've never heard it, like those without access. So those two things, it's like we're going to continue to press into that, to lean into that.
Speaker 3:Again, those are biblical matters and so, again, because of where we're at, we're in Mississippi, right, maybe there would be something else that was a more pressing matter in another place, but where we're at, those conversations are really needed in another place, but where we're at, those conversations are really needed. And so, by God's grace, we've had different. We've had African-American and white preachers. Both We've had breakout speakers We've had that are, that are both again black, white, spanish, a variety of blessing in that sense to us and so for us we're wanting to keep that as a part of the conversation, in part because there's a void of that conversation happening other places and we want to be one of the ones that is helping bring a biblical picture to that.
Speaker 4:And I also want to notice Chad. I looked at y'all's website and I noticed how diverse your leadership is at Colonial Heights as well. It really appears that you're a church that has taken seriously this call for reconciliation on the leadership level.
Speaker 3:So about whatever this means, okay, but about for reconciliation on the leadership level. Sure, about whatever this means, okay. But about 17% of our congregation is not white 17 or 18%, but again, that is a variety of diversity. So there's about 13, 14 different countries represented people from different countries in our congregation. So again, china, india, vietnam, several Hispanic countries, latino. So we have that enriching gift for us. So naturally, if we have that many godly people, surely they're going to be raised up as elders, they're going to be raised up as deacons, life group teachers and Sunday school workers and volunteers. Why? Because they're the support of our family. That's going to be what we do, and so it was an easy overflow into the Timothy Project for that to just naturally overflow from Colonial Heights to the dude.
Speaker 2:Nanny, you got any final words, man to close our interview out Any questions that you've been dying to ask the lead pastor of Colonial Heights Baptist Church. You know I'm impressed with the Timothy Project and what you all built with that. We're also impressed with what Austin just brought up, the fact that the leadership looks like the congregation and community, which I think is so important as we look at the Book of Acts in terms of how church leadership was diverse and that. So that's exciting to know. That's exciting that you all are making an intentional effort to do that. We're excited to be in some relationship and partnership with you all as you all lead the way in doing that with the things that you're doing. I just commend you and encourage you to keep up the good work.
Speaker 2:And again, everybody need a winner. No, no, everybody need a Paul Good Chad. Tell us, share. Share with us, man, as we wrap up. Share with us your hearts, your heart's dream for for the, for the work that you guys are doing through the Timothy Project Conference and the Timothy Project Initiative and the cohort. I mean, if you were to come to the end of your days and somebody would say, man, you accomplished everything that you set out with this initiative. What would that look like?
Speaker 3:What would that look like? I'd say, man, more people in the work of ministry, staying in the work of ministry, that they'd go another day, that they'll be that much more faithful to the word, they'll be that much more close to the Lord because they prayed, they called out to him, because he pointed them to scripture and and they tried again the next day. Uh, I think about today. Is the day after the conference, right? I think about all those guys today that are going to their prayer meeting tonight or their youth group tonight. I think about this coming Sunday. I hope there's. I know my cup's full, so I hope cups are full and they're going back into the pulpit, not just because of a conference but because of that relationship, and I pray that that just happens over and over, not year after year, but week after week as brothers and sisters link arms. We're intended to do this together so that we would do just that and see each other as the same team and not in opposition.
Speaker 2:Amen.
Speaker 4:Amen.
Speaker 2:Brother, I know I often say a good friend of mine once shared this and I've shared it often since but you can't argue what you do not have, but you cannot get what you do not have. Oftentimes we are constantly pouring from empty vessels and eventually it starts to show we are in desperate need of God and in desperate need of his bride surrounding us and filling us, filling our cup, and his spirit filling us and filling our cup, and the Timothy Project certainly serves as a visible, visible illustration of that, and so we're incredibly grateful for what you guys are doing and praying. Many blessings on you and your family and the entire Colonial Heights family as you continue to serve the Lord Jesus. So thank you for joining us, brother. Thank you so much, amen, amen. Thank you for joining us, brother. Thank you so much, amen, amen.
Speaker 2:If you all have not yet subscribed to this uh podcast, we would love for you to do so. So please just go out to any podcast search on living reconciled, and we typically have the first podcast that comes up and you can download this episode. You can also um subscribe and please feel free to share with others, whether it be friends, family, church members. We would love to get this podcast in as many years as possible, so please share it Again. We are grateful to our brother, chad Hunsberger, for spending some time, even after an incredibly busy weekend, giving us a few minutes as an after-party conversation about the Trinity Project, so we're grateful for that and on behalf of my good friends, daddy Weathers, austin Loyal this is Brian Crawford signing off, saying God bless.
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